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Don’t think what you say online matters? Think again!

Example 1: Facebook Fail

On Facebook, Dan Leone, a now former employee of the Philadelphia Eagles, posted this status update:

“Dan is ******* devastated about Dawkins signing with Denver…Dam Eagles are Retarded.”

Result: FIRED from working with the Philadelphia Eagles! DOH!

Example 2: Twitter Twit

On Twitter, one job seeker who was offered a job Tweeted this:

“Cisco just offered me a job! Now I have to weigh the utility of a fatty paycheck against the daily commute to San Jose and hating the work.”

To which someone at Cisco responded:

“Who is the hiring manager. I’m sure they would love to know that you will hate the work. We here at Cisco are versed in the web.”

FAIL! No job!

In this economy (and with the Internet’s memory) it’s going to be a LONG time before either person finds a new one.

So what can we learn from this?

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First, people are listening to what you have to say. If you use Google Alerts, or do a Twitter search, or watch your Facebook news feed, you can see what folks are saying in near real-time.

Second, everything you say online is captured FOREVER and it will be re-broadcast all over the world. The Cisco guy now has pages and pages of “re-tweets” for the phrase “cisco fatty” and there are 309 (soon to be 310) Google blog searches for “cisco fatty.”

Here’s the lesson:

Think twice before saying “Sally is a fat head” or “I hate my boss Phil!” Folks are listening. You probably are friends with someone who knows someone who knows someone who is friends with your boss, your co-worker, or your HR director.

What can YOU learn from this?

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Dave March 19, 2009 at 6:18 am

Never tweet anything you wouldn’t want to have your mother see on a billboard.

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Phil Gerbyshak March 19, 2009 at 10:42 am

Dave – GREAT suggestion!

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Melinda Stanley March 19, 2009 at 6:30 am

Excellent post! This should be a good reminder for anyone who tweets or facebooks their true feelings about their employment—or any other important factor in their life.

I’m a graphic designer and I see this all the time. Mostly, young people new in the game and not living their dream. Some have a tendency to express their true negative feelings about their current position. And, whether or not this lands them in the unemployment line is due to whether or not their employer is up to speed with the current social networking trends—or for that matter, just plain old google.

As a rule of thumb, I like to keep any tweets, status’ and blog posts upbeat and positive. What I put on the internet is out there for the whole world to see, and not just my friends.

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Phil Gerbyshak March 19, 2009 at 10:43 am

Melinda – you make a great point:

What I put on the internet is out there for the whole world to see, and not just my friends.

Even if you think you’re whispering in a friend’s ear…you’re NOT!

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David Leonhardt March 19, 2009 at 6:43 am

Actually, my mom – who doesn’t know which end of an Internet you sick in the turkey and which end you have to hand dry – taught me how to handle these situations when I was a child:

“If you don’t have something nice to say about somebody, don’t say anything at all.”

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Phil Gerbyshak March 19, 2009 at 10:43 am

Another great piece of advice. Thanks David!

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Corinne Edwards March 19, 2009 at 8:41 am

This is so true, Phil. I am always talking to my 16 year old grandaughter to be careful, especially with pictures, that she puts on her Facebook page. No party variety.

It could bite her later.

On the other hand, I just found two long lost cousins on Twitter! We are having fun reuniting. It can work for good too!

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Phil Gerbyshak March 19, 2009 at 10:44 am

Parties photos are fine…just use your head.

And I agree, you can find tons of ways to use new media for good :)

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Pete Jones - Desmoinesisnotboring March 19, 2009 at 10:35 am

Wow! What a way to know you were not going to get the job! Social Media is such a great tool, but it takes constant reminders like this to refresh our memories and realize that things said there can impact our lives.

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Phil Gerbyshak March 19, 2009 at 10:45 am

Just like chocolate…One moment on the lips, one year without a job.

Wait…that’s nothing like chocolate :)

Thanks Pete!

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Miki March 19, 2009 at 11:46 am

Great post, Phil. I’ve been telling people for years that the stuff they send into cyberspace will still be there long after they are dust unto the lives of their children’s children’s children’s etc. forever and ever.

And that includes emails, resumes, and records—even when the court orders them removed. They migrate, are fruitful and multiply beyond anything people imagine.

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Drew McLellan March 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Phil,

I raised this issue earlier this week …asking what rights/responsibilities do both employers and employees have in terms of what the employee says or does on social networking sites.

I’d love your thoughts.

http://tinyurl.com/cvud4g

Drew

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Joan Schramm March 20, 2009 at 5:40 am

Phil –

A sobering reminder of the need to watch what we’re putting out there in the world. Aside from my professional presence on FB, Twitter and LinkedIN, I originally joined mySpace to keep on eye on what my now-16-year-old nephew is doing. I tell you, some of the stuff on his page is enough to curl my hair but trying to explain that to a teenager is like talking to my Great Dane. Possibly even less effective, since the dog does sit when I tell him to.

Job-seekers (and hiring managers) need to be aware of the impact of social media sites in their job search and hiring decisions. I’m putting together a talk for some HR professionals about using social media in job search and had planned to use the Cisco story as an example of what NOT to do if you’re a job seeker, and what companies can do to learn more about their prospective hires.

Truly, a cautionary tale for the times.

Thanks.

Joan

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Phil Gerbyshak March 22, 2009 at 7:52 pm

Joan – I agree that it is VERY hard to convince people that your online profile matters. I don’t think that’s an age thing with just your teenager. I’ve talked to folks who say they have 2 Facebook profiles, like that is going to make a difference.

The only way to convince folks is to share cautionary tales like this and hope they resonate with the folks who need to hear it. While I like to focus on positive news, stories like this must be shared so folks get it.

Glad you’re out there telling the tales too! We need more folks like YOU!

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Tim March 21, 2009 at 11:26 pm

Phil:

Great, eye-opening post! I still have not created a Facebook or Twitter account. But I do have a LinkedIn acct. Funny thing – when I invited an old co-worker to be my new LinkedIn contact, he urged me to create a Facebook account so we could communicate that way. Is e-mail old school? Or is it me who is old-school?

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Phil Gerbyshak March 22, 2009 at 7:50 pm

Tim – I like both LinkedIn and Twitter, though I use them for very different things. I’d encourage you to try both and see what you like.

And no, you’re not old school…nor is e-mail. It’s really about the preferences of the person you’re communicating with. It’s up to you to decide if you want to move to their preferred medium (Facebook) or stick with yours (email).

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Brad Isaac March 30, 2009 at 8:13 am

I Facebook’d a negative comment about Mark Knopfler’s voice today. (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=616960878&ref=nf#/profile.php?id=616960878&ref=mf) should I be concerned??

hehe…

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Phil Gerbyshak March 31, 2009 at 10:56 pm

Only if you want to play in his band :)

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Emilie April 24, 2009 at 10:42 am

Phil -

My only concern with this lies in circumstances such as my own. I had been a manager at a local company and had been with them for 3 and a half years. During this timeframe I was promoted 3 times, never received any disciplinary action, and consistently had strong performance reviews. Yesterday I was fired for complaining about my job on my facebook status. NOW, however I am very aware that perhaps this may be wrong or not the smartest… I also have my profile privacy blocked so that you would have to be my friend to see it. With that in mind, it was not as if I was providing this “Complaint” to the entire world wide web, and in fact, there would have been very very few people that worked for this company that would have seen this. I also never named the company, any other employee names, etc…

How am I still in the wrong and losing my job over this? Don’t I have some sort of protection that at least requires them to not only warn me that they think this is an issue, but provide me with some sort of documentation on how I violated a policy??

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Phil Gerbyshak April 25, 2009 at 7:54 am

Emilie – This is a REALLY tough situation to be in. I’m going to think more about it and get you an answer soon.

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Emily June 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Ugh, no kidding… Facebook got me fired last week, too.

I think the people at the top are just power tripping. Personally – that’s my idea, especially if you have a very good performance and a simple complaint got you fired. Well, my case is a little harsh – I ranted about my company but didn’t really mention their name. They still got rid of me, and threatens me with a libel lawsuit…

I’m just a childish blogger… oh yeah, also a stupid one (and yeah I’m not really old yet). Looks like, I learned things the hard way.

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Phil Gerbyshak June 9, 2009 at 9:59 pm

I’m sorry to hear this Emily. I’m sorry you had to learn this the hard way.

I wouldn’t say this is power tripping…I’d say there were probably other reasons (maybe unsaid reasons) and this was just the icing on the cake.

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Joseph may December 24, 2009 at 12:44 pm

It is indeed a sad day when a person who may love their job, as I do, but at times can find themselves frustrated and bored with it. We need to be able to vent ourselves to keep from exploding or becomming withdrawn. Being bored at times does not mean I don’t like my job it just means that the tedium or routine is above par. It is not very realistic for anyone to constantly be skipping through their office sing praises of happiness with being at work, I mean when I am bored at home I don’t consider work as a cure for that. you would think that employers would want employees to feel secure in their jobs knowing that it’s not always a fun and superfantastic way to spend a day. I think if I wanted to get rid of someone I might use that as an excuse and if someone saying that they are bored is the worste thing you can come up with then hang on to them, because what if they were happy to be there but they’re work ethic sucked wich is worse

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meirahs February 5, 2010 at 9:46 am

I got fired last week for saying
“just found out thru the grapevine i am being laid off and my boss a “chicken shit” to tell me”.

but now i know better then to add coworkers from corporate as my friends!!
hard lesson. and no unemployment!

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